нам скоро идти в посольство. Мы хотим сделать гражданство по рождении для ребенка,(ребенку 1 месяц) отец американец, мать нет, ребенок рожден вне брака. Скажите пожалуйста, какие доказательства нужны для того чтобы убедить консула что ребенок от этого американца??? Я читала, что днк не всегда обязательно. От чего это зависити? Вот у нас есть переписка по электронке, почти сначала беременности, и фотки я ему высылала, и имя выбрали вместе для ребенка. Такие доказательства подойдут? И можно ли показать им смс на телефоне сначала наших отношений? И еще. Смотрят ли они на ребенка, похож ли он на отца внешне? Или зачем тогда брать ребенка с собой? И какие вопросы они могут задавать: может даты рождения друг друга, братья-сестры или еще что-то чтобы убедиться что мы давно и хорошо знакомы или не спрашивают ничего?
Заранее спасибо всем, хто хоть чем то поможет прояснить ситуацию. Хочеться просто прийти подготовленными)
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Начните отсюда: Здесь конкретно описаны требования для получения гражданства ребёнком рождённым вне брака от отца - гражданина США. В первую очередь, необходимо желание отца признать ребёнка, подписать документы о финансовой поддержке.
Я сильно темная в этом вопросе. Просто отец ребенка очень сильно настаивает на амер гражданстве, говорит, думает только о ребенке. Я боялась это делать, чтобы он не забрал ребенка, но я читала что это вроде как невозможно.
Он очень сильно любит нашу крошку, и финансово готов поддерживать и поддерживал нас даже всю беременность. Он ее признает. Так все-равно нужно будет делать днк тест или этого будет достаточно?
просто подтверждение ваших отношений до рождения ребенка. Фотки ваши беременные с папой ребенка очень пригодятся и прочие подтвержждения как то что вы имеете отношения - распечатки звонков, совместные счета итд. Все это датируется до рождения ребенка. По крайней мере это все что просили у нас 5 лет назад в американсколм посольстве в Мексике
муж сначала сьездил в посольство, все узнал, взял все формы и список документов, потом все собрали и сразу принесли все доказателбства что нашли. Я думаю что нужны фотки беременной и еще мы носили бумаги из роддома с моим именем и именем ребенка (сейчас вспомнтла) для того чтобы убедить их счто ребенок ваш, а не на улице вы его подобрали и не украли у кого.
Вот вам с сайта посольчтва в Москве инфа (вы в России или в другой стране?)
вот выборочно
Цитата:
The American Citizen Services Unit accepts applications for Consular Reports of Birth Abroad by appointment only.
Цитата:
Most, but not all, children born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent are eligible to be documented as U.S. citizens.
Цитата:
Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Father – “New” Section 309(a)
A person born abroad out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen father may acquire U.S. citizenship under Section 301(g) of the INA, as made applicable by the “new” Section 309(a) of the INA provided:
1.A blood relationship between the person and the father is established by clear and convincing evidence;
2.The father had the nationality of the United States at the time of the person’s birth;
3.The father was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth for five years, at least two of which were after reaching the age of 14.
4.The father (unless deceased) has agreed in writing to provide financial support for the person until the person reaches the age of 18 years, and
5.While the person is under the age of 18 years --
◦the person is legitimated under the law of his/her residence or domicile,
◦the father acknowledges paternity of the person in writing under oath, or
◦the paternity of the person is established by adjudication of a competent court.
Birth Abroad Out-of-Wedlock to a U.S. Citizen Father – “Old” Section 309(a) of the INA- A child born out-of-wedlock to a U.S. citizen father may acquire U.S. citizenship under the former Section 301(a)(7) of the INA as made applicable by the “old” Section 309(a) of the INA if the U.S. citizen father, prior to the child’s birth, had been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for ten years, five of which were after the age of 14, and if the paternity of the child had been established by legitimation prior to the child reaching the age of 21. The “old” Section 309(a) of the INA is applicable to individuals who were 18 on November 14, 1986 and to individuals whose paternity had been established by legitimation prior to that date. Individuals who were at least 15 on November 14, 1986, but under the age of 18, could opt to have their claim determined in accordance with the provisions of either the “old” or the “new” Section 309(a).
Цитата:
Completed DS-2029: Application for Consular Report of Birth Abroad for a Citizen of the United States of America
Please complete all required items for BOTH parents; do NOT leave any items blank. If you believe an item does not apply to you, please write the abbreviation "N/A". The back of the form has additional instructions. Do NOT sign this form. You will be asked to sign this form in front of an authorized official during the interview.
Completed DS-11: Application for a U.S. Passport (only if applicable)
This form is required if you plan to apply for a U.S. Passport. Please complete all required items (numbered 1 - 22); do NOT leave any items blank. The back of the form has additional instructions. Please do NOT sign this form. You will be asked to sign this form in front of an authorized official during the interview.
Completed DS-3053: Parental Consent Form (only if applicable)
According to U.S. law, both parents must be present in order to apply for a U.S. passport for their child. If one parent is unable to attend the interview, he or she will need to provide parental consent by filling out the DS-3053. This document must be notarized. You are also required to attach a notarized copy of the absent parent's photo ID.
Passport Photo
One color passport photo of the child is required. The photo must be 2 inches by 2 inches (2in X 2in) with a white background ONLY. The photo must NOT be retouched and should have a full frontal view of the child's face, including ears.
Proof of Citizenship for the U.S. Citizen Parent
The U.S. citizen parent intending to transmit citizenship to the child must provide their U.S. Passport. If the U.S. citizen parent is not in Russia, a notarized copy of the U.S. passport must be submitted. A U.S. citizen parent born in the United States will need to submit his or her birth certificate.
Parental Identification
Both parents should bring photo ID as proof of identity. A valid passport or government issued ID will suffice. If one parent is unable to attend the interview, a notarized copy of their photo ID may be submitted.
Birth Certificate for the Minor Child
You must submit the original government issued birth certificate. Birth certificates that are issued by a hospital or other medical institution will NOT be accepted.
Documentation of Parent's Marriage (if applicable)
If the marriage took place in Russia, please submit the original marriage certificate (a translation is not required). If the marriage took place in the United States or another country, please submit the original marriage document, and an English translation, if applicable.
Proof of Termination of Parents' Prior Marriage(s) (if applicable)
If the death or divorce occurred in Russia, the original death certificate or divorce certificate must be submitted. If the death or divorce occurred in the United States or another country, the original death or divorce certificate must be submitted, as well as an English translation, if applicable.
Evidence of Physical Presence in the United States
In the event that the child has one U.S. citizen parent, proof of the U.S. citizen parent's physical presence in the United States is required. The best way to establish this proof is to submit the original passports documenting entry and exits to all countries visited. Pay stubs, transcripts from educational institutions (NOT diplomas), and medical records may also be helpful in establishing physical presence. See below for a detailed description of physical presence requirements.
Fees
The processing fee for a CRBA application is $100, and the processing fee for a U.S. Passport application is $105. Fees must be paid in cash or by credit card, and are payable either in U.S. Dollars or the Ruble equivalent. Please note that the U.S. passport fee will not be collected until after the CRBA application is adjudicated. If the CRBA application is denied, the U.S. pa ssport application will not be adjudicated.
Additional Information
Please feel free to bring additional documentation (i.e. evidence of a relationship) if you feel it would be pertinent to the adjudication of your application. In some cases it may be necessary to submit additional documents, including the Affidavit of Parentage and Physical Presence, divorce decrees from prior marriages, evidence of pre-natal care, evidence of prior U.S. residence and/or physical presence, or DNA tests. All evidentiary documents should be certified as true copies of the originals by the registrar of the office where each document was issued.
